Ambysmom/OhioIPs

[tiggermom]

yes he was put on the bc but by them not me. i dont know all that info so they put his info down not me.

This is really becoming quite comical on how everyone has done all of this stuff and you were just an innocent bystander. You are the birth mom and biological mom, there is no way in the world that someone is just going to put down a name that you didn't give them as the father. Ginni and her husband can't tell them who to put, you have to sign the birth certificate that it is true and accurate and I'm sure there is a paragraph on there that talks about lying on it.

[tiggermom]

the children are very happy and taken care of. they have had their home studies done and have been aproved for the adoption. why they chose to do a step parent adoption instead of a full is beyond me. i dont know what the difference so i have no idea. is there much of a difference besides the fact that neither of them are bio. is there more paper work or time consuming.

The whole "I just don't know" excuse has been overused, and it definately doesn't fly in the legal system. It took over a year for you to do the adoption, a regular adoption that you are agreeing too would not have taken any longer but again you would have to notify the biological fathers which apparently was never done if you lied on the BC.

[ambysmom]

Your stories don't add up here, again there are lots of posts here about how it is not possible to not tell the court who the father is when you are doing adoption. And considering you just admitted that you were going to let your boyfriend at the time sign as a biological father to your daughter because you decided you didn't think her real father deserved to know, shows that this is definately something you aren't naive about.

There is no way to do a step parent adoption without lying and saying Ginnis husband was the father. So yes if you did a step parent adoption then you are lying. If you don't want to admit it, that's fine. At this point it doesn't matter, you can't keep your story straight from one post to the next.

Legally I don't know what kind of trouble you guys have gotten yourselves into, but perjury is a pretty serious offense, but more importantly there are 3 children and apparently a 4th on the way that are going to suffer the consequences of all our your actions. Hopefully there won't be any more.

no my daughters father knew he told me that he didnt want anything to do with her and that he wanted me to get an abortion. i dont lie to men about babies being made or made. my daughters dad knew about her and is on the certificate because he said he wanted to. i just didnt want my daughters birth certificate to be blank and her not have a father. she has a father which is a wonderful man but he is not her bio father. legally again i am not in prejury as our judge didnt ask me. his name was on the certficate and we were doing a step parent adoption so maybe he forgot but im not lyin about that i dont see how you can say i am lying about what was said or not said when you werent there.

[Whisper's Mommy]

Once again.. this is where you needed to do your OWN research. SOmething as huge as this, you do not leave to others.

A step-parent adoption is where ONE of the parents is the BIOLOGICAL PARENT!!... Full adoption is where NEITHER of the parents share DNA with the child.

If the bio-father was not given his rights in this, it can come back and bite all of you in the rear. In my son's case. we did a step-parent adoption. I did not know my son's fathers information but still was able to put him on the b.c later on. Once we went thru the adoption, we HAD to have the bio-dad go to court and speak with the judge. It was the only way to LEGALLY do the adoption. Plus do our home study etc. Even though I was his biological mother.

So if they did a step-parents adoption, then you told the hospital who the father is. Out of 6 children I have given birth to, two which were TS babies, they hospital asked us for the information for the b.c not the court. Which with the cases of my TS kids, their dad gave the info since he was in the hospital with me, then we gave a legal letter from my then husband stating that he was NOT the father of the kids.

[ambysmom]

This is really becoming quite comical on how everyone has done all of this stuff and you were just an innocent bystander. You are the birth mom and biological mom, there is no way in the world that someone is just going to put down a name that you didn't give them as the father. Ginni and her husband can't tell them who to put, you have to sign the birth certificate that it is true and accurate and I'm sure there is a paragraph on there that talks about lying on it.

about this i put down my info handed the papers to my ips and they filled out the rest. when the lady brought it back they asked me if my info was right i signed and and then they gave it to him. they asked him not me if his info was right and then he signed it. like i said i dont know his personall info so why would they have me put his info down. they knew he wasnt my hubby. but again who are you to say what happened that day as you werent there either. i just think it would be hard for you to admit that you are wrong and that maybe i am telling the truth. i know how hard it is for women to admit they are wrong.

[Whisper's Mommy]

Sorry but YOU ARE THE one who MUST tell the HOSPITAL who the father is. It isn't up to the courts to fill out the b/c until AFTER an adoption is filled out. After doing a step-parent adoption myself, I know. So if they did a step-parent adoption, that is saying you told the hospital that the IF is the bio dad. Because they go based on what the birthmom says IN THE HOSPITAL where the b.c is first written up.


The courts do not have anything to do with the b/c before an adoption UNLESS you are in a state where the parents are able to go on the b.c BEFORE the babies are born. That I believe is only in the case of a GS> I don't recall ever hearing about it in a TS case.

[ambysmom]

[QUOTE=Whisper's Mommy;1108794]Once again.. this is where you needed to do your OWN research. SOmething as huge as this, you do not leave to others.

A step-parent adoption is where ONE of the parents is the BIOLOGICAL PARENT!!... Full adoption is where NEITHER of the parents share DNA with the child.

If the bio-father was not given his rights in this, it can come back and bite all of you in the rear. In my son's case. we did a step-parent adoption. I did not know my son's fathers information but still was able to put him on the b.c later on. Once we went thru the adoption, we HAD to have the bio-dad go to court and speak with the judge. It was the only way to LEGALLY do the adoption. Plus do our home study etc. Even though I was his biological mother.

yes the hospital did ask for his info but my ips put it down not me. i didnt want any part of that because if they were doing something wrong i didnt want to be at fault. i put my info down correct and signed that my info was correct then they had him sign that his info was correct.

[svs'n'dvs]

yes he was put on the bc but by them not me. i dont know all that info so they put his info down not me.

Did you sign the b/c paperwork with his info on it???? They would not have added his info after you signed it....

[Whisper's Mommy]

Sadly it can come back onto you.

[tiggermom]

I could admit when I'm wrong but you just admitted that you lied on the birth certificate when you had him fill out as the father and then you signed it saying that it was correct. Maybe you didnt verify what his address and birthdate was but you knew that he was not the biological father, there was no PBO that stated there was a sperm donor because you had sex with someone and there is no way you would get one for that, and you signed it.

That is lying on a legal document. You may have let him fill it out, but you are just as responsible since you signed it verifying that he was the father.

For someone that has been caught changing her story constantly regarding this you certainly shouldn't be questioning who is the liar.

Also, you really need to try and check your spelling and proper punctuation with your posts. It's like reading a note from a child that doesn't know proper grammer.

[ambysmom]

Sorry but YOU ARE THE one who MUST tell the HOSPITAL who the father is. It isn't up to the courts to fill out the b/c until AFTER an adoption is filled out. After doing a step-parent adoption myself, I know. So if they did a step-parent adoption, that is saying you told the hospital that the IF is the bio dad. Because they go based on what the birthmom says IN THE HOSPITAL where the b.c is first written up.


The courts do not have anything to do with the b/c before an adoption UNLESS you are in a state where the parents are able to go on the b.c BEFORE the babies are born. That I believe is only in the case of a GS> I don't recall ever hearing about it in a TS case.

ok that may be true but how can i put info on the bc if i dont know the info of the if that is why the girl handed it to him to fill out. so if there is any prejury then it is on them they put the false info on the bc right. that doesnt make me a lier. i didnt say a word and i wasnt asked. i didnt say anything because i didnt know what was right or wrong. i was under the influence by what i was told that anyone can go on the birth certificate. the birth father signed off his rights when we did insems. so i didnt say anything. i didnt know if it was my place beings it was their baby. i didnt want to over step my boundries. i know i am not perfect and made mistakes. i should have done more research. i thought i knew everything and i guess i didnt. i know now and i know this is never going to happen again as i am skeptible about even doing an indy egg donation. i was warned by so many of my family members that i should have went through an agency and i didnt listen. well i will listen now because this is a bunch of crap. but again you dont have to beleive me as i am a liar.

[tiggermom]

[QUOTE=ambysmom;110880

yes the hospital did ask for his info but my ips put it down not me. i didnt want any part of that because if they were doing something wrong i didnt want to be at fault. i put my info down correct and signed that my info was correct then they had him sign that his info was correct.[/QUOTE]


So Ginnis husband was at the hospital for both births to sign the birth certificate?

If you knew the biological fathers name, why are you saying you don't know his info. If he signed off then you should have a legal document with all his info on it.

Also you are admitting that you knew it was wrong, so why lie about it and say you didn't know it couldn't be done that way and that FOC told you it was fine?

If the father signed off his rights when you had sex then you would have a prebirth order which we all know is impossible in Michigan. There is no way a father can sign off his rights before you deliver and establish paternity, let alone before you are even pregnant.

[svs'n'dvs]

[QUOTE=ambysmom;1108804]

Once again.. this is where you needed to do your OWN research. SOmething as huge as this, you do not leave to others.

A step-parent adoption is where ONE of the parents is the BIOLOGICAL PARENT!!... Full adoption is where NEITHER of the parents share DNA with the child.

If the bio-father was not given his rights in this, it can come back and bite all of you in the rear. In my son's case. we did a step-parent adoption. I did not know my son's fathers information but still was able to put him on the b.c later on. Once we went thru the adoption, we HAD to have the bio-dad go to court and speak with the judge. It was the only way to LEGALLY do the adoption. Plus do our home study etc. Even though I was his biological mother.

yes the hospital did ask for his info but my ips put it down not me. i didnt want any part of that because if they were doing something wrong i didnt want to be at fault. i put my info down correct and signed that my info was correct then they had him sign that his info was correct.

You signed it. You are very much a part of it. Was there a lawyer involved in any of this????

[ambysmom]

I could admit when I'm wrong but you just admitted that you lied on the birth certificate when you had him fill out as the father and then you signed it saying that it was correct. Maybe you didnt verify what his address and birthdate was but you knew that he was not the biological father, there was no PBO that stated there was a sperm donor because you had sex with someone and there is no way you would get one for that, and you signed it.

That is lying on a legal document. You may have let him fill it out, but you are just as responsible since you signed it verifying that he was the father.

For someone that has been caught changing her story constantly regarding this you certainly shouldn't be questioning who is the liar.

Also, you really need to try and check your spelling and proper punctuation with your posts. It's like reading a note from a child that doesn't know proper grammer.

well what ever as i type fast and it doesnt matter to me. my fingers work fast and not always in the direction they should. i am a very good speller just all out of wack. any way that is why i am not going into a feild that takes lots of typing. but man you are filled with so much negativity. your shockra is filled with so much negativity. you should drink some cleansing herbal tea or something. it will help. try some chai it is good. take some yoga. those classes are fun. can we start over and will you at least let me get some advice from you from time to time if i need. maybe we could take some yoga together maybe it will not the liar out of me. lol. common i know that had to make you laugh but for real im sorry that you had to get mixed up in all of this.

[ambysmom]

[QUOTE=svs'n'dvs;1108821]

You signed it. You are very much a part of it. Was there a lawyer involved in any of this????

no no lawyer my IPs did not supply me with one and i couldnt afford to get one on my own. again my stupidity for not getting one. lesson learned. i do have one now though.

[Lowboy Love]

This thread really needs to be closed....

[ambysmom]

oh yes i have gotten alot of good advice from others though.

[tiggermom]

This thread really needs to be closed....

Why close it? I am the OP and I find it quite amusing and informative for future TS/IPs that may have the unfortunate run in with this situation.

[tiggermom]

well what ever as i type fast and it doesnt matter to me. my fingers work fast and not always in the direction they should. i am a very good speller just all out of wack. any way that is why i am not going into a feild that takes lots of typing. but man you are filled with so much negativity. your shockra is filled with so much negativity. you should drink some cleansing herbal tea or something. it will help. try some chai it is good. take some yoga. those classes are fun. can we start over and will you at least let me get some advice from you from time to time if i need. maybe we could take some yoga together maybe it will not the liar out of me. lol. common i know that had to make you laugh but for real im sorry that you had to get mixed up in all of this.

You need some serious help, you haven't made me laugh one bit. This is very serious and as much as you like to portray you were innocent in all of this, you have not convinced me, but again it's not me that matters it will be the legal system.

And for the record, it doesn't matter what type of field you are trying to get into (and I know you have claimed you are a nursing student) there is no way that you would be able to take college classes without proper grammer.

I'm not filled with any negativity, nor do I need to cleanse myself and certainly I would never consider meeting you for anything. I find this thread quite amusing as you have tried to backtrack and twist everything into being an innocent bystander, while in another thread admitting what you just denied. You are the only one here that believes you to be in the dark about the entire situation.

[Lowboy Love]

Why close it?

Wendy, you definitely got your point across, don't you think everyone has been warned, or do you have more to bring out?




You know I totally respect your stand here as do alot of members. It's just going into overkill.